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Why you don't findOff the Wall Bisbee
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| Over the years the internet has changed. One of the biggest changes
was the motive for profit. When Off the Wall in Bisbee began the internet was a new place and very exciting. Many search engine, would have a tab or button at the very top of the page asking for you to submit a URL. We submitted. We submitted all the time. (I do love Bisbee and it was fun to submit). Some sites
were easy, submitting was easy. |
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| Yahoo has a selection "How to Suggest Your Site". If you go there it all comes down to this. | ||
| The cost is $299, non-refundable, annual fee. | ||
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| Off the Wall in Bisbee was also listed with Alta Vista, Excite, Lycos, and many more. | ||
| This is the Alta Vista option. (They talk pricing per click). | ||
| But Alta Vista will still accept an application; | ||
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| BUT IT ALL CONFUSING, MANY TIMES THE SUBMIT SITE HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED. | ||
| This is how Alta vista does it these days: | ||
| First page: http://addurl.altavista.com/sites/addurl/newurl | ||
| You may be able to list with them in 8 weeks or so. | ||
| Excite Is powered by Infospace. (They state that they are affordable). | ||
| The cheapest rate is $49 | ||
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| There is always another confusing option;: | ||
| First page: Excite only offers an add your advertisement page. This
is part of the text. http://www1.excite.com/home/companyinfo/advertise_overview/0,3552,,00.html |
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| What is your
estimated online advertising budget? I currently do no have an online advertising budget <$499 $500 - $4,999 $5,000 - $24,999 $25,000 - $49,999 $50,000 + |
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| LYCOS, it's called TERRA LYCOS, (or was that Terra Locos) and it all comes down to this, | ||
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| There was another Lycos location: http://srd.yahoo.com/srst/55022627/lycos/12/226/T=1031533825/ F=6fa9e5cf031f51e0e1c34c59385eab30/*http://home.lycos.com/addasite.html |
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| but that submit does not exist anymore. The server can not be found. | ||
| About 5 years ago we purchased two "Dot Com's" BisbeeTour.com and Bisbeewalk.com |
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| They'll list your site too, but that's extra, as if the cost of the name was not enough for them. | ||
| I have less favorite places for example; | ||
| And then there is Google: This is supposed to be an non commercial site, right! |
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| You can advertise with them. Many portals use Google as their entry these
days: http://www.google.com/ads/ |
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| (Google's current campaign minimum is
$10,000 over three months. For campaigns at a lower spending level, try Google AdWords Select.) |
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| All these others have been know to confuse me; | ||
| The open directory project is run by little lizards in a back room. If they don't like your site it never works. Give it a try above and see what it can't find. | ||
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| Ask Jeeves is powered by Teoma, | ||
| They will list two URL's for you for $48.00. Ineedhits.com will send you junk mail and still try to get you money to list. |
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| Many providers (Nerscape for one) use Google, so that they don't have to
maintain their own search database. So many times you get to see the same cash requests, when submitting. |
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| I still continue to consider this all a hobby, but I have noticed that listing's on the internet are harder to obtain. Usually they expect money, the following are typical of the submission sites I find these days. |
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| And this is the reason you don't find Off the Wall in Bisbee on the web that much these days | ||
| You know if you are bored you could submit, never let them get your real
address of course. Who needs all that junk mail. |
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| www.bisbeetour.com and www.bisbeewalk.com | ||
| if you want to submit. | ||
| I did do some research at the Library, this is from the Wall Street Journal | ||
Two years ago, weight-loss provider Nutri/System Inc. stopped advertising on America Online because it couldn't afford the sky-high prices. Now, Nutri/System is advertising on America Online again -- at rock-bottom prices. In fact, Nutri/System isn't paying at all. America Online is running Nutri/System's ads free for two months, and Nutri/System only has to pay $50 when one of its ads sparks a customer to buy a weight-loss package. So it goes with Internet advertising. These days, Internet publishers are so downtrodden they are doing whatever it takes to win advertisers to their Web sites. The biggest players are being hit the hardest. In April, AOL Time Warner Inc. Chief Executive Richard Parsons told investors that $1.8 billion was the "floor" for how low America Online's advertising and commerce revenues could go this year. But now the floor has dropped lower. On Monday, AOL said its online unit's ad sales could come in as low as $1.6 billion this year -- or about 10% lower than its previous forecast. That is a massive drop from last year, when America Online's revenue for advertising and commerce was $2.7 billion. AOL's advertising woes are compounded by the fact that it is under investigation by the Securities & Exchange Commission and the U.S. Justice Dept. for alleged accounting excesses during its ad heyday. Last month, AOL said it uncovered $49 million that may have been improperly booked as ad revenue during the six quarters ending March 31, 2002. America Online's problems are part of a broader meltdown in the online-ad industry. Smaller sites say they began feeling it as early as two years ago when AOL was still going strong. Now some sites are saying they have hit bottom and are recovering, while AOL and rival Yahoo Inc. are still declining. The relationship between advertisers and online publishers is undergoing a seismic reversal in leverage. In the late 1990s, young companies flush with cash poured money into high-priced banner ads on sites owned by the industry behemoths. At the peak of the boom, the average online ad cost about $6 per thousand viewers. Some Internet-related companies wanted so badly to get on AOL that they gave up chunks of equity in their companies to pay for the ads. Now, average online ads hover between $1 and $3 per thousand viewers, and Web sites are going to extremes to survive. Many are running ads free and only getting paid when customers click on the ads. Other sites are running what appear to be news articles written by advertisers. And one Web site, Forbes.com6, has even promised advertisers a money-back guarantee if their ads don't work at generating "brand awareness," as measured by surveys and other follow-up. Forbes.com President and Chief Executive Jim Spanfeller said he decided to offer the money-back guarantee out of a "desperation to put the proper perspective on Web advertising." The desperation appears to be working. The Online Publishers Association said it surveyed 14 of its members, including Forbes.com, Slate.com7, USAToday.com8 and the Wall Street Journal Online, and found their collective ad sales were up 33.5% this year over last year. "I think there's been a flight to quality," says Michael Zimbalist, executive director of the association. But it may be more of a flight to bargains. The kind of deal Nutri/System made with America Online -- known as pay for performance -- is in increasingly popular in Internet-ad industry. GartnerG2 Analyst Denise Garcia estimates 30% of online-ads are pay for performance -- a sign, she says, that media companies have a glut of inventory. E-commerce companies, in particular, are focusing on pay for performance, rather than the traditional model of paying for ads based on the number of viewers. Hewlett-Packard Co.'s HPShopping site (HPShopping.com9), for example, in the past two years has switched most of its ads to the pay-for-performance model. Amanda Gooding, a marketing program manager for HPShopping, says the company still does some traditional advertising, but "we watch them very carefully to make sure they perform as well as our [pay-for-performance] deals." Of course, pay-for-performance ads are risky for Web sites, which only get paid if a customer clicks on an ad or buys something. But both America Online and Yahoo have given in to it in some cases in an effort to rebuild relationships with advertisers. Advertisers also are getting more digital ink for their money. Phil Beinert, an e-business manager for Volvo of North America LLC, says two years ago he mostly bought banner ads on MSN's Carpoint Web site (carpoint.msn.com10). Recently, however, he persuaded Carpoint's editors and publishers to build a special section of their Web site called "Volvo Digital Garage" for what he would normally paid for banner ads. Advertisers also are pushing for a presentation that some feel blurs the line between advertising and editorial. Sony Corp.'s Sony Electronics Inc. recently caused a stir when it placed a series of ads designed to resemble news articles, written by free-lance writers hired by Sony. The articles profile people who use Sony products, such as digital cameras, and appear on America Online's travel channel under the heading "a feature by Sony." Sony Electronics spokeswoman Lois Catala said the ads were designed based on guidelines published by the American Society of Magazine Editors. An AOL executive said the article is clearly labeled as being generated by Sony. The distinction wasn't fine enough for everybody. A spokeswoman for the New York Times Web site (nytimes.com11) says the site turned down Sony's ads because they didn't meet the company's criteria for "clearly labeling" advertising content. Nationalgeographic.com12, Walt Disney Corp.'s FamilyFun.com13 and iVillage Inc.'s women-oriented Web site (ivillage.com14) have the phrase "advertising series" in the article heading. |
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| I want to thank them for the perspective, obviously Bisbeetour.com is not Nutri/System. | ||
| updated 09/18/07 07:38:53 PM |